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	<description>The continuing adventures of a couple of San Francisco food dorks</description>
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		<title>By: Married &#8230;with dinner &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What the cluck?</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2008/01/25/dark-days-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-90087</link>
		<dc:creator>Married &#8230;with dinner &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What the cluck?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last year, when I discovered &#8212; after reading Bonnie Powell&#8217;s excellent post &#8212; that the Judy&#8217;s Family Farm eggs I&#8217;d been buying at the Ferry Plaza Farmers Market were the product of an intensive factory operation called Petaluma Farm, I was pretty pissed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last year, when I discovered &#8212; after reading Bonnie Powell&#8217;s excellent post &#8212; that the Judy&#8217;s Family Farm eggs I&#8217;d been buying at the Ferry Plaza Farmers Market were the product of an intensive factory operation called Petaluma Farm, I was pretty pissed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2008/01/25/dark-days-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-84219</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kim -- What a lovely compliment -- thank you!  

I agree that finding sustainable, ethical food is much more of a chore than any reasonable &#039;normal&#039; person would accept. After a year and a half of paying attention and almost 9 months of eating locally grown and produced foods, it&#039;s getting easier for us. I suppose once I&#039;ve researched every possible thing I might want to buy, it will be somewhat more self-sustaining. But yeah, I can only imagine how much harder it would be if I had a family to feed, or limited income, or a lot less interest in food overall. Maybe someday it will be easier -- I keep dreaming that someone will open a store that sold only local, sustainable stuff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kim &#8212; What a lovely compliment &#8212; thank you!  </p>
<p>I agree that finding sustainable, ethical food is much more of a chore than any reasonable &#8216;normal&#8217; person would accept. After a year and a half of paying attention and almost 9 months of eating locally grown and produced foods, it&#8217;s getting easier for us. I suppose once I&#8217;ve researched every possible thing I might want to buy, it will be somewhat more self-sustaining. But yeah, I can only imagine how much harder it would be if I had a family to feed, or limited income, or a lot less interest in food overall. Maybe someday it will be easier &#8212; I keep dreaming that someone will open a store that sold only local, sustainable stuff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Yummy Mummy</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2008/01/25/dark-days-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-84217</link>
		<dc:creator>The Yummy Mummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anita - 

You know, I am long overdue telling you how much I enjoy your blog...and how happy I am that I am not the only one who started reading Pollan&#039;s OD a couple years behind the pack! Just shameful, isn&#039;t it?

Your post today underscores how much time and thought is required in being mindful about eating, buying and cooking. It is nearly a second job just checking in on purveyors and processing of everything that gets to our table. It&#039;s all good for us &quot;food enthusiasts&quot; who enjoy the hunt and discovery of it all but, I think, a real gauntlet for folks just trying to get a good meal on the table for their families. 

Thanks for writing about your thoughtful pursuit of good food. I&#039;ll be back for more...

Kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anita &#8211; </p>
<p>You know, I am long overdue telling you how much I enjoy your blog&#8230;and how happy I am that I am not the only one who started reading Pollan&#8217;s OD a couple years behind the pack! Just shameful, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Your post today underscores how much time and thought is required in being mindful about eating, buying and cooking. It is nearly a second job just checking in on purveyors and processing of everything that gets to our table. It&#8217;s all good for us &#8220;food enthusiasts&#8221; who enjoy the hunt and discovery of it all but, I think, a real gauntlet for folks just trying to get a good meal on the table for their families. </p>
<p>Thanks for writing about your thoughtful pursuit of good food. I&#8217;ll be back for more&#8230;</p>
<p>Kim</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Sam, I wish I could. Unfortunately the law says coops have to be a certain distance from any operable door or window, and one of our neighbors has illegally built onto their house so much that they&#039;re within 5 feet of the fence line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Sam, I wish I could. Unfortunately the law says coops have to be a certain distance from any operable door or window, and one of our neighbors has illegally built onto their house so much that they&#8217;re within 5 feet of the fence line.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2008/01/25/dark-days-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-84171</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>time for you to get chickens for your yard? If I had a yard I would do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>time for you to get chickens for your yard? If I had a yard I would do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2008/01/25/dark-days-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-84169</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katrina: Thanks! We loved those little Wellingtons, too. 

Sam: I wish I could just download everything that you and Jen M. know about local eating into my brain. I feel like I am constantly re-inventing the wheel!

Jennifer: Glad to know that NYC has some pastured egg sources, too. Yay!

Kathy: WF has no pastured eggs, to my knowledge, although the Clover Organic ones are at least &#039;free range&#039; and they don&#039;t do anything evil other than de-beaking (I think). Rainbow -- which has MSF eggs, occasionally -- has a chart on their egg fridge that shows all the pros and cons, and I remember deciding that if I couldn&#039;t get real pastured eggs that at least Clover Organic was less evil than most. I keep meaning to check out Golden Produce, but between being deathly ill and getting so much of our food at the Farmers Market, I haven&#039;t had much impetus.

Nicole: We usually buy our chickens from Marin Sun Farms, as they&#039;re the only readily available pastured chickens. Unfortunately (for us, but fortunately for the chickens) they stop breeding them when temperatures fall; their last market visit was before Thanksgiving. We put a few half-birds in the freezer for emergencies, but we just decided that it&#039;s better to think of pastured chickens as a seasonal item and eat more beef and pork in the winter, like our grandmas did.

If you have your heart set on chicken, though, you could do far worse than Hoffman chickens. Alas, they don&#039;t come to the farmers market anymore, but you can buy them from Cafe Rouge&#039;s meat counter, and from Magnani&#039;s in Berkeley -- I haven&#039;t found any SF suppliers.

I suppose the next best thing would be Fulton Valley &#039;Sonoma Select&#039; chicken -- large-scale organic and semi-local (they&#039;re bred in the valley, despite their name). You can get them at Guerra&#039;s Meats on Taraval, or Bi-Rite. These are the birds that Roli Roti uses, so they&#039;re definitely tasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katrina: Thanks! We loved those little Wellingtons, too. </p>
<p>Sam: I wish I could just download everything that you and Jen M. know about local eating into my brain. I feel like I am constantly re-inventing the wheel!</p>
<p>Jennifer: Glad to know that NYC has some pastured egg sources, too. Yay!</p>
<p>Kathy: WF has no pastured eggs, to my knowledge, although the Clover Organic ones are at least &#8216;free range&#8217; and they don&#8217;t do anything evil other than de-beaking (I think). Rainbow &#8212; which has MSF eggs, occasionally &#8212; has a chart on their egg fridge that shows all the pros and cons, and I remember deciding that if I couldn&#8217;t get real pastured eggs that at least Clover Organic was less evil than most. I keep meaning to check out Golden Produce, but between being deathly ill and getting so much of our food at the Farmers Market, I haven&#8217;t had much impetus.</p>
<p>Nicole: We usually buy our chickens from Marin Sun Farms, as they&#8217;re the only readily available pastured chickens. Unfortunately (for us, but fortunately for the chickens) they stop breeding them when temperatures fall; their last market visit was before Thanksgiving. We put a few half-birds in the freezer for emergencies, but we just decided that it&#8217;s better to think of pastured chickens as a seasonal item and eat more beef and pork in the winter, like our grandmas did.</p>
<p>If you have your heart set on chicken, though, you could do far worse than Hoffman chickens. Alas, they don&#8217;t come to the farmers market anymore, but you can buy them from Cafe Rouge&#8217;s meat counter, and from Magnani&#8217;s in Berkeley &#8212; I haven&#8217;t found any SF suppliers.</p>
<p>I suppose the next best thing would be Fulton Valley &#8216;Sonoma Select&#8217; chicken &#8212; large-scale organic and semi-local (they&#8217;re bred in the valley, despite their name). You can get them at Guerra&#8217;s Meats on Taraval, or Bi-Rite. These are the birds that Roli Roti uses, so they&#8217;re definitely tasty.</p>
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		<title>By: nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this ... and so glad to hear Clover is on the up-and-up, since I buy pretty much exclusively from them.

Now ... do you have a recommendation for a good, local, organic chicken I can buy in SF?  I&#039;m a vegetarian, but I want to make roast chicken for my dad&#039;s birthday, and I definitely want it to be local, but  Unfortunately, I have no idea where to start!

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this &#8230; and so glad to hear Clover is on the up-and-up, since I buy pretty much exclusively from them.</p>
<p>Now &#8230; do you have a recommendation for a good, local, organic chicken I can buy in SF?  I&#8217;m a vegetarian, but I want to make roast chicken for my dad&#8217;s birthday, and I definitely want it to be local, but  Unfortunately, I have no idea where to start!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: KathyR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KathyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flour and egg information is really  valuable.  Thank you!  Now I&#039;m wondering if Whole Foods or Golden Produce has any pastured eggs.  Shopping at Golden Produce seems a nice alternative to Rainbow if you do want meat and don&#039;t need bulk spices that day.  I noticed those Judy&#039;s eggs at Drewes recently (not a shocker, I know!!).

Your blog has taught me a lot.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flour and egg information is really  valuable.  Thank you!  Now I&#8217;m wondering if Whole Foods or Golden Produce has any pastured eggs.  Shopping at Golden Produce seems a nice alternative to Rainbow if you do want meat and don&#8217;t need bulk spices that day.  I noticed those Judy&#8217;s eggs at Drewes recently (not a shocker, I know!!).</p>
<p>Your blog has taught me a lot.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Hess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A timely topic considering my recent poached egg kick!  We buy Shady Maple Farm eggs from our favorite cheesemonger Anne Saxelby, or Tello&#039;s or Knoll Krest Farm eggs at the Greenmarket, and from the digging I&#039;ve done I think we&#039;re cool.  (whew)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A timely topic considering my recent poached egg kick!  We buy Shady Maple Farm eggs from our favorite cheesemonger Anne Saxelby, or Tello&#8217;s or Knoll Krest Farm eggs at the Greenmarket, and from the digging I&#8217;ve done I think we&#8217;re cool.  (whew)</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2008/01/25/dark-days-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-83953</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I might have been able to tell you that about the eggs three years ago. If you go to rainbow there is a handy egg chart pinned to the fridge with a table of egg feature - very handy. The only eggs I will buy are Marin Sun, Eatwell or Soul Food. Eatwell I think didnt use to be pastured but now they are? The MSF people told me their chickens can either be locally fed or oranically fed but not both and I can&#039;t remember which they are because they were about to switch from one to the other. If I can&#039;t get one of the above aforementioned eggs then I am eggless which sucks since I am an egg addict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I might have been able to tell you that about the eggs three years ago. If you go to rainbow there is a handy egg chart pinned to the fridge with a table of egg feature &#8211; very handy. The only eggs I will buy are Marin Sun, Eatwell or Soul Food. Eatwell I think didnt use to be pastured but now they are? The MSF people told me their chickens can either be locally fed or oranically fed but not both and I can&#8217;t remember which they are because they were about to switch from one to the other. If I can&#8217;t get one of the above aforementioned eggs then I am eggless which sucks since I am an egg addict.</p>
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