Comments on: Bitter apple http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/ The continuing adventures of a couple of San Francisco food dorks Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:27:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Nathan http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-63641 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:15:06 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-63641 a couple notes: the place on the UES with a great Belgian beer selection is Cafe Alsace, NOT B. Cafe. sorry you received bad info. I'm afraid that you hit what NY generally doesn't do well foodwise...California style-ingredients speak for themselves--source local cuisine. sorry about Del Posto...it's just not a great restaurant...but it is French (here or Vegas is it for the U.S.), Japanese and Italian that we do well...as well as what we've taken to calling new paradigm cooking -- Bouley Upstairs and Momofuku Ssam Bar (the original Momofuku is quite good but you have plenty of CA equivalents) a couple notes:

the place on the UES with a great Belgian beer selection is Cafe Alsace, NOT B. Cafe. sorry you received bad info.

I’m afraid that you hit what NY generally doesn’t do well foodwise…California style-ingredients speak for themselves–source local cuisine.

sorry about Del Posto…it’s just not a great restaurant…but it is French (here or Vegas is it for the U.S.), Japanese and Italian that we do well…as well as what we’ve taken to calling new paradigm cooking — Bouley Upstairs and Momofuku Ssam Bar (the original Momofuku is quite good but you have plenty of CA equivalents)

]]> by: Chubbypanda http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-50830 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:34:33 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-50830 Anita, You didn't pull any punches, but I think your critiques were very classy. It's a shame that you didn't have a better dining experience in NYC. I guess it's not surprising. With so many eateries, there have to be a fair number of duds or places that just don't measure up. Anita,

You didn’t pull any punches, but I think your critiques were very classy. It’s a shame that you didn’t have a better dining experience in NYC. I guess it’s not surprising. With so many eateries, there have to be a fair number of duds or places that just don’t measure up.

]]> by: Anita http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-50356 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:08:56 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-50356 Aaron: Mm, we like Lao. We'll have to give that a try. S'kat: Yeah, that was the pits of it, really. One bad meal I can handle! Chuck: I had no idea that BH had a rep for undersalting. How ironic! We did have a ginger beer cocktail -- we know Audrey's ginger geer from the Gin-Gin mule days. :D We'll have to put Momofuku on the list. Miche: So glad to help! We were thinking of taking our 3-year-old niece there for her bothday, but when we realized how cruddy the snow was, we were glad we hadn't. Sarah: Definitely, Babbo. I couldn't believe how disparate the two experiences were. Squeat: Oh, I meant ZigZag. :) There was a link in the post, but I know they're sometimes hard to see. We still haven't really found our cocktail "home" in SF. I think the closest we get is Range, which is sad. Most of the downtown places have too much attitude (and too-high prices) for us. Aaron: Mm, we like Lao. We’ll have to give that a try.

S’kat: Yeah, that was the pits of it, really. One bad meal I can handle!

Chuck: I had no idea that BH had a rep for undersalting. How ironic! We did have a ginger beer cocktail — we know Audrey’s ginger geer from the Gin-Gin mule days. :D We’ll have to put Momofuku on the list.

Miche: So glad to help! We were thinking of taking our 3-year-old niece there for her bothday, but when we realized how cruddy the snow was, we were glad we hadn’t.

Sarah: Definitely, Babbo. I couldn’t believe how disparate the two experiences were.

Squeat: Oh, I meant ZigZag. :) There was a link in the post, but I know they’re sometimes hard to see.

We still haven’t really found our cocktail “home” in SF. I think the closest we get is Range, which is sad. Most of the downtown places have too much attitude (and too-high prices) for us.

]]> by: Squeat Mungry http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-50109 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:53:46 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-50109 Yikes, Anita! What a let-down. Is the 'favorite bar' Pegu Club reminded you of ZigZag? Or somewhere here in town? Yikes, Anita! What a let-down.

Is the ‘favorite bar’ Pegu Club reminded you of ZigZag? Or somewhere here in town?

]]> by: Sarah http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-49876 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:52:06 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-49876 You hit three of my favorite places--Bemelman's, Flatiron, and Pegu Club! Sorry to hear about the disappointing meals, though. I've heard so much about Del Posto, too. Guess I'll stick with Babbo for my next parents-in-town fancy dinner. You hit three of my favorite places–Bemelman’s, Flatiron, and Pegu Club! Sorry to hear about the disappointing meals, though. I’ve heard so much about Del Posto, too. Guess I’ll stick with Babbo for my next parents-in-town fancy dinner.

]]> by: miche http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-49318 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:47:44 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-49318 This post was fun to read in some sick and twisted way. I do need to say a big THANKS for the info about the Bemelman's Bar. I read something briefly recently, but this finally made me go to the website. I now need to take my daughter Madeline to the Madeline brunch they have there! :) This post was fun to read in some sick and twisted way. I do need to say a big THANKS for the info about the Bemelman’s Bar. I read something briefly recently, but this finally made me go to the website. I now need to take my daughter Madeline to the Madeline brunch they have there! :)

]]> by: chuck http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48743 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:14:28 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48743 Over-salted @ Blue Hill? Perhaps they've been reading the countless reviews that complain of under-salting? I've had 2 BH meals, both bland thanks to the lack of salt, and I wouldn't go again unless I was with someone "known to the house." Pegu - I hope you got the ginger beer cocktail. My friend and I had over 20 over a 2 day period - tooooo good. Momofuku - This was your giant mistake - one of the best restaurants in the big city right now. It's an absolute must-go lunch for my NYC trips - order everything but the ramen, especially the sea food & pork dishes. NYC dining leaves me wanting, much like SF dining; albeit, for different reasons. NYC tries harder but generally fails; SF doesn't try hard enough (relying on the produce) and all of the restaurants taste the same. Over-salted @ Blue Hill? Perhaps they’ve been reading the countless reviews that complain of under-salting? I’ve had 2 BH meals, both bland thanks to the lack of salt, and I wouldn’t go again unless I was with someone “known to the house.”

Pegu - I hope you got the ginger beer cocktail. My friend and I had over 20 over a 2 day period - tooooo good.

Momofuku - This was your giant mistake - one of the best restaurants in the big city right now. It’s an absolute must-go lunch for my NYC trips - order everything but the ramen, especially the sea food & pork dishes.

NYC dining leaves me wanting, much like SF dining; albeit, for different reasons. NYC tries harder but generally fails; SF doesn’t try hard enough (relying on the produce) and all of the restaurants taste the same.

]]> by: s'kat http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48701 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:39:45 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48701 It's one thing to have one or two bad meals, but to face it All WEEK LONG. Jeez. It’s one thing to have one or two bad meals, but to face it All WEEK LONG.

Jeez.

]]> by: Aaron http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48664 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:31:54 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48664 The only restaurant I know in NYC that I recommend to people is Mangez Avec Moi because the proprietor is actually from Laos (or at least, she was when I was there, admittedly a couple years ago). They used to have a website, but it appears to have gone the way of the dodo. Still, if you search for Mangez Avec Moi you'll find reviews. From what I remember, it's very close to a subway station, too. The way I found this place was after tasking my Great Aunt (who lives in Manhattan) to find me a Lao restaurant in NYC. She ultimately had to ask their UN representatives, and this is where they said they eat when they miss home. The only restaurant I know in NYC that I recommend to people is Mangez Avec Moi because the proprietor is actually from Laos (or at least, she was when I was there, admittedly a couple years ago).

They used to have a website, but it appears to have gone the way of the dodo. Still, if you search for Mangez Avec Moi you’ll find reviews. From what I remember, it’s very close to a subway station, too.

The way I found this place was after tasking my Great Aunt (who lives in Manhattan) to find me a Lao restaurant in NYC. She ultimately had to ask their UN representatives, and this is where they said they eat when they miss home.

]]> by: Anita http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48349 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:17:42 +0000 http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/#comment-48349 Brett: We will definitely take you up on that offer! Cam's office is based in Manhattan, and I have a space there where I can work remotely (under the guise of spending time with our sales crew)... and family, too -- I know we'll be there a lot. It wasn't so much that one place didn't live up to the dream -- <em>that</em> we're used to -- as that the entire week (including some casual meals I didn't write up, and two dinners Cam had before I arrived) were uniformly disappointing. Bleh... Jessica: Indeed! it was nice to get away from the remodel mess for a week :) Brett: We will definitely take you up on that offer! Cam’s office is based in Manhattan, and I have a space there where I can work remotely (under the guise of spending time with our sales crew)… and family, too — I know we’ll be there a lot.
It wasn’t so much that one place didn’t live up to the dream — that we’re used to — as that the entire week (including some casual meals I didn’t write up, and two dinners Cam had before I arrived) were uniformly disappointing. Bleh…

Jessica: Indeed! it was nice to get away from the remodel mess for a week :)

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