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	<description>The continuing adventures of a couple of San Francisco food dorks</description>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://marriedwithdinner.com/2007/03/22/bitter-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-63641</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a couple notes:

the place on the UES with a great Belgian beer selection is Cafe Alsace, NOT B. Cafe.  sorry you received bad info.

I&#039;m afraid that you hit what NY generally doesn&#039;t do well foodwise...California style-ingredients speak for themselves--source local cuisine.

sorry about Del Posto...it&#039;s just not a great restaurant...but it is French (here or Vegas is it for the U.S.), Japanese and Italian that we do well...as well as what we&#039;ve taken to calling new paradigm cooking -- Bouley Upstairs and Momofuku Ssam Bar (the original Momofuku is quite good but you have plenty of CA equivalents)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a couple notes:</p>
<p>the place on the UES with a great Belgian beer selection is Cafe Alsace, NOT B. Cafe.  sorry you received bad info.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that you hit what NY generally doesn&#8217;t do well foodwise&#8230;California style-ingredients speak for themselves&#8211;source local cuisine.</p>
<p>sorry about Del Posto&#8230;it&#8217;s just not a great restaurant&#8230;but it is French (here or Vegas is it for the U.S.), Japanese and Italian that we do well&#8230;as well as what we&#8217;ve taken to calling new paradigm cooking &#8212; Bouley Upstairs and Momofuku Ssam Bar (the original Momofuku is quite good but you have plenty of CA equivalents)</p>
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		<title>By: Chubbypanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chubbypanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anita,

You didn&#039;t pull any punches, but I think your critiques were very classy.  It&#039;s a shame that you didn&#039;t have a better dining experience in NYC.  I guess it&#039;s not surprising.  With so many eateries, there have to be a fair number of duds or places that just don&#039;t measure up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anita,</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t pull any punches, but I think your critiques were very classy.  It&#8217;s a shame that you didn&#8217;t have a better dining experience in NYC.  I guess it&#8217;s not surprising.  With so many eateries, there have to be a fair number of duds or places that just don&#8217;t measure up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron: Mm, we like Lao. We&#039;ll have to give that a try.

S&#039;kat: Yeah, that was the pits of it, really. One bad meal I can handle!

Chuck: I had no idea that BH had a rep for undersalting. How ironic! We did have a ginger beer cocktail -- we know Audrey&#039;s ginger geer from the Gin-Gin mule days. :D We&#039;ll have to put Momofuku on the list. 

Miche: So glad to help! We were thinking of taking our 3-year-old niece there for her bothday, but when we realized how cruddy the snow was, we were glad we hadn&#039;t.

Sarah: Definitely, Babbo. I couldn&#039;t believe how disparate the two experiences were.

Squeat: Oh, I meant ZigZag. :) There was a link in the post, but I know they&#039;re sometimes hard to see. 

We still haven&#039;t really found our cocktail &quot;home&quot; in SF. I think the closest we get is Range, which is sad. Most of the downtown places have too much attitude (and too-high prices) for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron: Mm, we like Lao. We&#8217;ll have to give that a try.</p>
<p>S&#8217;kat: Yeah, that was the pits of it, really. One bad meal I can handle!</p>
<p>Chuck: I had no idea that BH had a rep for undersalting. How ironic! We did have a ginger beer cocktail &#8212; we know Audrey&#8217;s ginger geer from the Gin-Gin mule days. <img src='http://marriedwithdinner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  We&#8217;ll have to put Momofuku on the list. </p>
<p>Miche: So glad to help! We were thinking of taking our 3-year-old niece there for her bothday, but when we realized how cruddy the snow was, we were glad we hadn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Sarah: Definitely, Babbo. I couldn&#8217;t believe how disparate the two experiences were.</p>
<p>Squeat: Oh, I meant ZigZag. <img src='http://marriedwithdinner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  There was a link in the post, but I know they&#8217;re sometimes hard to see. </p>
<p>We still haven&#8217;t really found our cocktail &#8220;home&#8221; in SF. I think the closest we get is Range, which is sad. Most of the downtown places have too much attitude (and too-high prices) for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Squeat Mungry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squeat Mungry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes, Anita! What a let-down.

Is the &#039;favorite bar&#039; Pegu Club reminded you of ZigZag? Or somewhere here in town?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, Anita! What a let-down.</p>
<p>Is the &#8216;favorite bar&#8217; Pegu Club reminded you of ZigZag? Or somewhere here in town?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hit three of my favorite places--Bemelman&#039;s, Flatiron, and Pegu Club! Sorry to hear about the disappointing meals, though. I&#039;ve heard so much about Del Posto, too. Guess I&#039;ll stick with Babbo for my next parents-in-town fancy dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit three of my favorite places&#8211;Bemelman&#8217;s, Flatiron, and Pegu Club! Sorry to hear about the disappointing meals, though. I&#8217;ve heard so much about Del Posto, too. Guess I&#8217;ll stick with Babbo for my next parents-in-town fancy dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: miche</title>
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		<dc:creator>miche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was fun to read in some sick and twisted way.  I do need to say a big THANKS for the info about the Bemelman&#039;s Bar.  I read something briefly recently, but this finally made me go to the website.  I now need to take my daughter Madeline to the Madeline brunch they have there!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was fun to read in some sick and twisted way.  I do need to say a big THANKS for the info about the Bemelman&#8217;s Bar.  I read something briefly recently, but this finally made me go to the website.  I now need to take my daughter Madeline to the Madeline brunch they have there!  <img src='http://marriedwithdinner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over-salted @ Blue Hill?  Perhaps they&#039;ve been reading the countless reviews that complain of under-salting?  I&#039;ve had 2 BH meals, both bland thanks to the lack of salt, and I wouldn&#039;t go again unless I was with someone &quot;known to the house.&quot;

Pegu - I hope you got the ginger beer cocktail.  My friend and I had over 20 over a 2 day period - tooooo good.

Momofuku - This was your giant mistake - one of the best restaurants in the big city right now.  It&#039;s an absolute must-go lunch for my NYC trips - order everything but the ramen, especially the sea food &amp; pork dishes.


NYC dining leaves me wanting, much like SF dining; albeit, for different reasons.  NYC tries harder but generally fails; SF doesn&#039;t try hard enough (relying on the produce) and all of the restaurants taste the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over-salted @ Blue Hill?  Perhaps they&#8217;ve been reading the countless reviews that complain of under-salting?  I&#8217;ve had 2 BH meals, both bland thanks to the lack of salt, and I wouldn&#8217;t go again unless I was with someone &#8220;known to the house.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pegu &#8211; I hope you got the ginger beer cocktail.  My friend and I had over 20 over a 2 day period &#8211; tooooo good.</p>
<p>Momofuku &#8211; This was your giant mistake &#8211; one of the best restaurants in the big city right now.  It&#8217;s an absolute must-go lunch for my NYC trips &#8211; order everything but the ramen, especially the sea food &amp; pork dishes.</p>
<p>NYC dining leaves me wanting, much like SF dining; albeit, for different reasons.  NYC tries harder but generally fails; SF doesn&#8217;t try hard enough (relying on the produce) and all of the restaurants taste the same.</p>
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		<title>By: s'kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>s'kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one thing to have one or two bad meals, but to face it All WEEK LONG.

Jeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one thing to have one or two bad meals, but to face it All WEEK LONG.</p>
<p>Jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only restaurant I know in NYC that I recommend to people is Mangez Avec Moi because the proprietor is actually from Laos (or at least, she was when I was there, admittedly a couple years ago).

They used to have a website, but it appears to have gone the way of the dodo. Still, if you search for Mangez Avec Moi you&#039;ll find reviews. From what I remember, it&#039;s very close to a subway station, too.

The way I found this place was after tasking my Great Aunt (who lives in Manhattan) to find me a Lao restaurant in NYC. She ultimately had to ask their UN representatives, and this is where they said they eat when they miss home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only restaurant I know in NYC that I recommend to people is Mangez Avec Moi because the proprietor is actually from Laos (or at least, she was when I was there, admittedly a couple years ago).</p>
<p>They used to have a website, but it appears to have gone the way of the dodo. Still, if you search for Mangez Avec Moi you&#8217;ll find reviews. From what I remember, it&#8217;s very close to a subway station, too.</p>
<p>The way I found this place was after tasking my Great Aunt (who lives in Manhattan) to find me a Lao restaurant in NYC. She ultimately had to ask their UN representatives, and this is where they said they eat when they miss home.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett: We will definitely take you up on that offer! Cam&#039;s office is based in Manhattan, and I have a space there where I can work remotely (under the guise of spending time with our sales crew)... and family, too -- I know we&#039;ll be there a lot.
It wasn&#039;t so much that one place didn&#039;t live up to the dream -- &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; we&#039;re used to -- as that the entire week (including some casual meals I didn&#039;t write up, and two dinners Cam had before I arrived) were uniformly disappointing. Bleh...

Jessica: Indeed! it was nice to get away from the remodel mess for a week :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett: We will definitely take you up on that offer! Cam&#8217;s office is based in Manhattan, and I have a space there where I can work remotely (under the guise of spending time with our sales crew)&#8230; and family, too &#8212; I know we&#8217;ll be there a lot.<br />
It wasn&#8217;t so much that one place didn&#8217;t live up to the dream &#8212; <em>that</em> we&#8217;re used to &#8212; as that the entire week (including some casual meals I didn&#8217;t write up, and two dinners Cam had before I arrived) were uniformly disappointing. Bleh&#8230;</p>
<p>Jessica: Indeed! it was nice to get away from the remodel mess for a week <img src='http://marriedwithdinner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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